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You know, at 65, I really shouldn't chuckle so much with all the taint talk. :->

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On the hole, I agree with your comment.

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I think Ken and Josh are understating the situation. You can’t just waive around the taint and expect it to dissipate.

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Aug 23, 2022Liked by Ken White

Are you sure? Ken seemed to be over the moon when discussing the taint team.

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What pushed me over the edge to becoming a paid subscriber is all the taint talk. Everybody needs more educated irreverence in their lives

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Aug 25, 2022Liked by Josh Barro

If you ever change the name of this podcast or create a third podcast, may I suggest "Taint Team Talk with Josh & Ken"? I put Josh's name first because he's more likely to support it.

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this is a good idea

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Such an informative discussion-but I’ve served on juries and didn’t appreciate the snark surrounding the process. I’m old enough to remember it’s a privilege to serve in the process, as much of a pain as it is.

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I agree. It's an important civic duty.

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And numerous turns at jury duty are not at all unusual in small jurisdictions. I had an appeal once from a rural county in MO where a husband and wife were on the venire. They were asked if they could make up their own minds if on the jury together, and agreed they could. They knew this because they had both served on a previous jury about a month before!

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"Taint Team" that term can go in so many directions!

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Hearing Ken giggle about the taint team is hilarious. Please keep making Ken feel awkward.

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The affidavit made reference to "civilian witnesses". Is this a normal term in federal affidavits, or is there some nuance here? Are they trying to say the witnesses are not federal civ employees or USSS?

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DoJ submitted their redacted affidavit and the judge approved its release almost immediately. Is there anything to read into this? Seemed very quick for a probably several dozen page document.

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Are we going to get a bonus episode Friday once the redacted affidavit is posted?

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Will the loan forgiveness stimulate more production of Serious Trouble content?

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Maybe I just don't read enough, or watch the news enough, but there's been an argument I have not heard made against TFG and his classified document woes. When we speak of security in regard to these documents, our minds immediately turn to levels of classification. But having worked in IT for several decades, I've come to learn that there's more to security than just access. Chiefly among these is preservation. The former president can say what he wants about his Master Lock security system at Mar-A-Lago, but in terms of preservation, which sounds more secure? A specially designed, temperature controlled facility designed for the storage of documents, or a basement in South Florida? I mean, seriously, as a resident of the House That DeSantis Destroyed, it still blows me away anytime I hear of a basement attached to any structure in this state. Security is also about accountability. At NARA, the documents are not just stored, but cataloged, maintained, and indexed, so that nothing every goes "Ark of the Covenant" in some dingy warehouse. It also means that anybody with the credentials to view the material can go through an established set of protocols designed to protect the information being stored, and that proper records of that access are kept and maintained as well. It shouldn't involve asking the front desk for a key like you were asking to use a gas station bathroom. So often, his flock throws all of their eggs into the "access" basket, and completely ignores preservation, accountability, and any one of a number of other functions that the Archives performs.

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Have you guys addressed the WSJ opinion piece by Rivkin and Casey about the Presidential Records Act and how it protects Trump? I would be interested in your take on it.

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I’m pretty jealous of Tim, actually. I was finally chosen for a jury (first time to be called up, I think they liked my blazer), but at the last minute they settled the case out of court.

I’m sure after 14-16 times, the shine wears off, but I’m intensely curious about the system.

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I'm that "Tim". Yeah, I was a lot more enthusiastic the first couple times. Now I've lost all faith in the American judicial system. You really don't want to see how your sausage is made.

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Try to hide your enthusiasm during voir dire. I don't know about other lawyers, but I generally don't trust anyone who seems too eager to be on the jury and look for reasons to disqualify them.

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Yes, if I get the chance I figure I'll play it like John Cusack's character in Runaway Jury ...

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As a practicing sovereign citizen, all of my criminal convictions are against the corporation known as Young Riprock.

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Even with a 4 Advil toothache, I also enjoyed your show. Thanks.

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