Serious Trouble
Serious Trouble


Prosecutors want the FTX founder to stop contacting his ex-employees; David DePape isn't nuts enough to beat the rap; Alec Baldwin is formally charged; Donald Trump is suing Bob Woodward

Dear listeners,

They say when one door closes, another door opens. And while Michael Avenatti’s availability to create fodder for our podcast has diminished, Sam Bankman-Fried has impishly taken his place. This week, the former crypto billionaire who’s lucky to be out on bail is under fire from federal prosecutors, who would like him to stop using encrypted messaging apps, and also not to message his ex-empoyees to ask them to “vet things with each other.”

In fairness to SBF, Ken failed to include Signal on his list of platforms that he shouldn’t run his mouth on. (No Wickr or Telegram for you either, Sam.)

This week, we talk about how not to stay out on bail, and how the judge is likely to respond to this issue. We also talk about David DePape, who seems pretty nuts — but not nuts enough to have an effective insanity defense for his attack on Paul Pelosi. That’s the end of the free episode. For paying subscribers, we continue on with answers to your questions about Alec Baldwin, who has officially been charged with involuntary manslaughter.

And we have more Trump litigation to discuss — he’s suing Bob Woodward, saying Woodward wasn’t supposed to release the audio recordings of Trump’s interviews with him. And Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg appears to be investigating another angle on possible criminal wrongdoing — but not a very promising one.

We hope you enjoy the episode, and we especially appreciate those of you who sent in feedback and questions about Alec Baldwin. As always, we encourage you to share your thoughts in the comments below or by emailing



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Serious Trouble
Serious Trouble
An irreverent podcast about the law from Josh Barro and Ken White.
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